Dear Funk :

Firstly, rescuers do have their reasons to be stringent as there are so many bad adopters. They adopt, but do not put in effort to correct existing problems, then throw the pets out AGAIN. Even here in PF, you see a few already.

With that in mind, some rescuers want to ensure they weed out "pretenders" with these conditions. As to how strict or lenient the rescuer wanna be, I think that's their own preferences loh.

Having said that, a genuine adopter can counter propose, discuss and even proof that he or she is worthy. I'm sure these rules are not cast in stone, merely a means to see how much effort you are willing to put in to adopt that dog.

So, if you really feel like you can offer the best for the dog, call the rescuer up, discuss options and come to a common agreement.

How can each adopter be treated like "the past-bad-experience"?

The "thy holier than thou" attitude must cease to exist from these arrogant souls. This sinful and spiteful terms are downright derogatory to genuine folks like me.

Honestly, I don't think I want to prove anything when I adopt a pet lor. If we ngam-key, we can talk and you can visit. If not ngam-key, I'll leave your premise on the spot - no need to talk.

Folks like me must deserve some respect-lar!!!

Well funk u got it rite.
If ngam kee then can talk and visit.
If not ngam kee then no talk.
Well easy conclusion to u.
If not ngam kee here then u oso no need to adopt rite?
:)
Jscott just trying to HELP!!!!

She from the first din mark out that she din respect potential adopter.
how do u know that she din respect potential or interested adopter ler.
what's the matter with u guys.
She din force u guys to adopt the dogs.
If not ngam then go ahead look for another one that let u guys adopt easily.

Hope i'm not being rude but it's kinda tired to repeat the same matter again and again.

Well good luck to everybody.

In defense of stringent conditions, I'd just like to highlight an experience of mine.

When my dog had pups before, we gave out the puppies to our friends and neighbours. Most of them were ok, but there was one neighbour who kept the dog in the cage ALL the time. I don't know for sure if it was our pup or not, because their house has high walls and we arent friendly to them.
A couple of years later, either they released the dog, or the dog ran out, we all noticed THE DOGS LEGS HAD BEEN DEFORMED like a frogs. Meaning the dog always sat/lay down and never stood up properly! The cage must have been too small. After that they released the dog regularly to run to the grass, but the damage had already been done. What a miserable thing to do to an animal! I still feel regret over giving a pup to that horrid neighbour, and I pray it wasnt our pup that ended up like that.

Therefore, I understand why some people put stringent conditions onto potential adopters. Being given the needle could be more humane in some cases.

However, honestly do rescuers have time to visit your house all the time? Most people have the courtesy to give you a call beforehand. Also, someone who is willing to accept these conditions and maybe a few visits has a high chance of being a good owner. That could be a reason to put these conditions in.

After all, most rescued animals have already had 1 round of bad luck, their rescuers wouldnt really want to waste the effort of rescuing them only for them to end up in the same situation as before :)

As a final note, adoption is a 2 way street, its up to the adopter who they want to adopt from, and the rescuer who they want to give to. If the adopter thinks a rescuer is being too strict, they can always choose another pup, or go to the local shelter, or grab a pup off the streets (its puppy season, all the strays are giving birth :/ ) Rescuers have the responsibility of rehoming their animals, as best they can

My own view on adoption, is that the adopter has to show they are comfortable with dogs, and have the means to give the dog a decent shelter, good and water, as well as interaction. If they are living with someone else (eg family, their family must be willing to accept the dogs freedom). If they are that, then please give these shelter/SPCA dogs a chance. But then again I don't personally rescue these dogs, so I don't feel a personal bond to them :) I just want to get as many animals out of SPCA and into a decent home. Not easy when SPCA dogs are mainly mongrels.

"Folks like me must deserve some respect-lar!!!"

Respect is earned. All that counts is your ability to win the respect of those whose dogs you want to adopt. Rather than bashing them, why not convince them that you are worthy of their respect?

Ya, like wat sashy said, sum ppl keep dogs in the cage all the time, may be they tot they are keeping fish.

poor dog...
evrybody is fighting in here n nothing is about wanting to adopt him...
one old man in paws tell me: if u need to choose between feeding a human n a dog, who would u feed first?

Frankly? Dog. Ha ha ha

haha..
Revo.. i'll choose dogs as well...
aiya not fighting lar just sharing point of view...:P

By having such resentful conditions, she is merely pushing adopters away - the genuine ones included. Would it be better if it is worded, "Pretenders need not apply?".

Feed the people of course. The wounded, the sick, the old, the children, the ladies then the able men. In that order! Then only the dogs.

BTW, I don't to earn those respect lar. Just see

Past experience DOES NOT equate to future experience. Simple right?

I just don't want to argue anymore nor want to change anyone's perception which has so ingrained.

I rest my case.

Revo..I choose to feed a dog bec 1) Normally come when called 2) They don't answer back 3) Eat less and they also not fussy when they get the same meal every night and are grateful 4) If you scold them, they don't pout. Generally, they are over it in a minute and love you anyway 5)Wherever you take them, it's their FAVORITE place to be 6) Whatever you feed them, it's the BEST food they've ever eaten 7) When you come home, it's the MOST FUN they've had all day 8) When someone threatens you, they tell them to back off, no matter how much bigger the other guy is..haha..definitely dog

Thank you scott for helping me out in posting this dog. Funk thanks you for your interest but you hae failed in adopting any dogs from most of the people here. And I have no problems putting down any dog if I see fit. Pictures looks great but you haven't met or handled the dog therefore you will never understand why the terms and conditions are set. I am always pretty flexible and can come to a mutual agreement with the future adopters. Good luck to you in adopting a dog then.

And of cos i will feed the dog. Humans have brains, hands and feet to think and find food for themselves. For kids it's their parent's responsibility for bringing them out to this world. For the old if they have never planned their future what can I say? For the disabled I am sure they have a family too. I don't mind donating money but given a choice the money will go to the poor dogs.

Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and opinions, people do things for a reason and I feel that if having some T&C's to abide by to guarantee a dogs/cats safety and to ensure it gets the best in life, then so be it. I don't mean to say that all adopters are lousy but just a minority might be just one of those BYB's so its just a state of precaution to find VERN the best home.

I don't want any arguements or insults here. If you feel you'd like to adopt this dog and the t&c's are okay with you, then consult acsyen.

If you feel some of them is not suitable, try to discuss and come to an agreement/understanding.

Everyone has different methods and opinions on how a dog/cat/pet of any kind should be adopted, so lets just leave it at that, and leave out the insults, cynical remarks etc.

We're all here for the same reason, that is to help the animals live a better life aren't we? So lets stick to that.

Acsyen, don't thank me for my interest in Vern coz I don't have any AT ALL!

It is just that I agree with Shanti's POV and she gets bashed pretty badly PLUS the moderator just refused to have this topic posted in the forum. Even if I am interested in Vern, I wouldn't take him in because of your lunatic conditions.

My dear, I've not even started to adopt a dog here and yet you said I have failed. Are you the powers-to-be ensuring that I will fail? If this is the actions of such influential ppl over here (thy holier than thou attitute) to muzzle strong opinions, I wish all of you well and sayonara!

Funk, one question: If you have no interest in the dog AT ALL, why do the adoption requirements bother you so?

If you had genuine interest in the dog, you would contact the rescuer/fosterer and simply discuss your suitability to adopt. You seem to take the requirements as a personal affront to YOU, rather than an attempt to find the best adopter for the dog. Sorry to say, but it doesn't sound like the dog is your primary interest in the least; you're too busy being offended by what you perceive as demeaning conditions.

If you want a dog with no strings attached, there are surely several million strays who would be grateful for your love, care and experience. Why spend your energy fussing about those with strings attached? There's a place for each of us in this animal welfare effort. Do what you can, and do what you can do happily! :-)

To clarify my statement, I don't have the authority to control any other fosterers/rescuers, but you will fail purely as maneki says because you don't have any interest in the dogs at all. Well with no strings attached do try to give a home to a stray that you can find along the streets. Hopefully the dog gets a good home from you.

Not interested in Vern does not mean not interested in dog. That, you cannot even differentiate? The mind is already clouded, why do I even bother!

Funk,why you make so much noise?? The terms & condition is for you and the fosterer to discuss if you are interested to adopt the dog.It is not life & death decision.When you make so much noises abt the t & c,it shows your true colour.

Dear Funk,

I would like to ask you to change your role and imagine you are Vern's fosterer. Knowing all of Vern's pros and cons, and loving him very much, would you want him to just go off to an owner who doesn't know his needs? Although this owner says he'll feed Vern, walk him, blablabla, will he be bothered to spend money take him for training and buy a BARF diet for him? Those who want to adopt Vern would have to know all these things to be prepared. If they love him that much, I'm sure they would do all the requirements. But, unfortunately, many people don't spend their money on dogs because, dogs are just dogs...but as you and I know, they aren't and they need more taking care than humans do. So just accept these Terms and Conditions, especially since you are not interested in Vern, it is bascially, Im sorry to say, none of your business to critisize what others want for their dog. I hope you'll be sensible enough to leave this board now as basically all the comments haven't been about people's interest in Vern, but about you. Thank you for reading this.

Funk, Vern is an attractive GSD, the T & C set by acsyen is to ensure that he get the right owner that is willing to accept and correct his weakness...All of us here wish that we could find good home for poor animals in perfect harmony.. No point to create paper war here :)